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The ADUG electronic mailing list is a forum for
all members to share information, and is the medium by which upcoming
events and matters of general interest are notified to all ADUG members.
If you become an ADUG member you will be invited to subscribe
to this list (or our info list below) when you join the group. We would
prefer that you stayed in the loop, but membership of the list is
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following the instructions below.
Full use of the mailing list is currently
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subject line with "ADUG" so that recipients can easily tell which
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List policy and etiquette
The ADUG mailing list is not moderated so this
means that we rely on all list members to follow a few simple rules to
ensure that it is an effective and welcome tool for all
members to use.
Please note that the ADUG list master has absolute
discretion to add or remove people from the
list at any time and is not obliged to notify those who have been
If you have any questions about list policy, please address them to firstname.lastname@example.org
1 Aim of the list
The aim of this mailing list is to facilitate
on-going communication between all members of the ADUG. This is an
appropriate forum if you need help with Delphi or if you have any
suggestions or issues to raise. Limited forms of advertising are
permitted. Please see the advertising guidelines below.
This list is maintained by the ADUG for the
benefit of Delphi programmers. If you are a Delphi programmer at any
level you are welcome to lurk, and to post. We leave it up to you to
consider supporting us by joining..
3 Appropriate subject lines
Please use a subject line for every message you
post, and please ensure that it is appropriate. The aim of the subject
line should be to allow those people who might not be interested in
your message to decide not to read it. Blank subject lines and
non-descriptive subject lines like "Help me" are very tedious and all
members are encouraged to ignore such posts. Another silly subject line
is "Off topic" - it's better to describe the topic clearly and allow
the reader to decide.
Attachments are discouraged and any attachment
that may contain a virus is strictly forbidden. This includes
executables and MS Office documents.
5 Large messages
The list server automatically limits messages to
20kB (including attachments). This is a deliberate policy to discourage posting of
binaries and other large files or messages. Some list members still use
a dial up line and it wastes time waiting for large messages to
download. If a large item is of general interest then it is preferable
to just post a message about where it can be found. Alternatively you
can invite requests, and send it directly to those who want it.
6 Observe the rights of others
Please ensure that you have the right to post
material. Simply acknowledging copyright does not
give you the right to post something that is copyright.
Please observe other people's privacy and do not give out contact
details without their permission, even if they are members of this list.
Please be careful not to give offence, and particularly do not defame
anybody, regardless of whether they are list members or
7 Text format
Messages should always be in plain text. Not all
list members have mailers that can read HTML. Plain text also makes it
easier to set up search facilities on the mailing list archives.
Please try to avoid very long lines. Not all mailers fold them and they
can make a post very hard to read.
Some forms of advertising is welcome as long as
it is appropriate to the group. This would products and services that
would be of particular interest to Australian
Formal job advertisements are not appropriate on the general ADUG members list.
Members and outside agencies are asked to submit all job advertisements via
If you are unsure whether your advertising is
appropriate please check with the ADUG list master at email@example.com.
Advertisers should especially take care to ensure that the subject line
of their message is appropriate and descriptive. It should make clear
what is being advertised, and if it is location specific then the
location should be made clear. Remember that list members come from all
over the country, and overseas.
10 Check your mailer
The list server sets the Reply-To field of each
message to try to ensure that replies are posted back to the list.
Unfortunately some mailers ignore this field and send the reply direct
to the sender. So please check that the recipient is
firstname.lastname@example.org when you send a reply that is intended for all to
see. If this doesn't happen you may wish to consider updating your
11 Replies direct to sender
The list server sets the Reply-to header to
ensure that replies go back to the list. There are however some
messages for which it is preferable for replies to go directly to the
sender. Advertised products and services would fall into this category.
Originators of these messages should clearly indicate that responses
should be made direct to them and not to the list and provide an
appropriate contact address.
If you use an "out of office" notification
facility or other type of auto-responder please unsubscribe yourself
temporarily from the list while it is active. It's also a good idea to
configure your auto-responder to reply only once to each sender.
Auto-responder replies will typically cause your email
address to be automatically unsubscribed, due to excessive bounces.
If you have previously used an auto-responder and discover the ADUG
list has gone strangely quiet, please log onto your ADUG mailman page
(a personalised link is at the bottom of every ADUG list email)
and re-subscribe yourself.
If you see an auto-responder message in an endless
loop on the list please refrain from posting to the list as this will
only compound the problem.
Please make sure you trim the messages before you
reply. If you require
certain parts of the old message refer to it by quoting the original
message. If you don't refer to the old message strip it entirely from your
message body. In particular make sure that other list members'
Unsubscribe/Options-links get deleted before
you hit the send button. We do have an online archive available and don't want an
archive of the entire discussion in each reply.
For example a trimmed reply message could look
please find my comments below.
>Question part A
My reply on question part A.
Joe also wrote:
>Question part B.
My reply on question part B.
[Part C & D have been deleted as
I did not have any comments on them.]
1 Message prefixing
The list server will automatically prefix the
subject line with "ADUG" or "Re: ADUG" so that recipients can easily
tell which messages are from the list.
2 Time fixing
The Date-time header of every message is set to
the list server time rather than the time that was set by the
originating mailer. This ensures that when the receiving mailer sorts
the messages by date-time they will appear in the order in which they
were distributed to the list.
3 Message size limit
Message sizes are limited to 20kB, including
attachments. This ensures that the list can be quickly accessed even
with a dial in connection, and also helps to keep trojan horses
off the list.
4 Confirmation request override
Messages that request a response when the message
is read are automatically modified to suppress this request. This
prevents the reader's mailer from generating a response back to the
This is a low-volume announcement style list for
people that only want to receive notices of monthly meeetings, special
events and administration issues (such announcements will also be posted
to the members list, so there is no need to be on both lists).
This is a moderated list - all postings are submitted to the List Master for approval,
so there will be a delay before posts appear.
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Subsequently, you will receive a welcome email with administration
details for the list.
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for information or other material that is posted on these lists.
Users of these lists must be accept that content
of each message is solely the reponsibility of the poster of the
message, and the use of the content is solely the responsibility of the
The ADUG and its officers can accept no liability
for consequential damages that may arise due to use of information or
attachments that are posted to these lists, or for misuse of the lists.
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